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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 11:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the photo Mike - special enough for a new post - perhaps some more crew will find the page and comment http://grump.yoldfart.com/topsail-schooner-eric-borgman/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the photo Mike &#8211; special enough for a new post &#8211; perhaps some more crew will find the page and comment <a href="http://grump.yoldfart.com/topsail-schooner-eric-borgman/" rel="nofollow">http://grump.yoldfart.com/topsail-schooner-eric-borgman/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 10:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have just found and scanned a pic of Borgmann, taken on the equator. How do I upload it?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Lesotho pictures by moliehi sefako</title>
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		<dc:creator>moliehi sefako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this pics are beautiful...they remind me of home.
ke iqhenya ka bosotho ba ka le naha ea heso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this pics are beautiful&#8230;they remind me of home.<br />
ke iqhenya ka bosotho ba ka le naha ea heso.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bruce. 
..Jack Showers were are you? - Last time i saw him was the late 80&#039;s in St Thomas, i had a boat fueled up and ready to go on the Bilge dock, Jack had just got to town and wanted to have a drink and catch up. Wish i&#039;d had that drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bruce.<br />
..Jack Showers were are you? &#8211; Last time i saw him was the late 80&#8242;s in St Thomas, i had a boat fueled up and ready to go on the Bilge dock, Jack had just got to town and wanted to have a drink and catch up. Wish i&#8217;d had that drink.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Bruce Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 06:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1974 was the year I finished building a boat in Detroit, worked for a sailmaker and lost a girl friend in Annapolis, worked for both Charlie Morgan and Ted Irwin in St Pete as a designer, met my future wife, and went to work as a delivery crew for Capt. Jack Showers. We delivered Out Islands from St Pete, one for Moorings and an OI51 north of Acapulco. There were many adventures but I was so young and Jack so cool, I thought it was normal. We were boarded once by the Treasury guys and in Windward Passage we were stopped late at night by a US Navy friget with the brightest search light I have ever seen. You could feel its heat and it was awhile before we could see again.

We also had an engine room fire and had to sail a few days into Jamaca with no electricity which meant no lights, no fridge, and no cooking. The owners wife had stocked up on canned black olives which she said were very hard to come by in Mexico and we ate alot of them. In Jamaca we played hard with the locals at night while rebuilding the electrical system during the day. Jack spent some idyl time trying to hit on Errol Flynn&#039;s grand daughter. In general it was a most productive week.
   For some reason we couldn&#039;t fine a chart of Panama in St. Pete but Jack scarffed up a page our of an old high school history book. As you could guess the weather was very bad comming into Panama, no shots were possible, and we were relying on his dead reckoning. It was on this trip I learned the principle of making sure you miss to the right or the left and then running down the coast to your port. We were all still relieved to be able to take a sight on the last evening.

After the Canal, we were leaving Panama on Christmas day. My girlfriend had cook one of her special 8 pound Galliano white fruit cakes. Jack, Elliot, and I ate the whole damn thing in one day.

In Coasta Rica we ended up staying for several days and i would like to go back. In Salina Cruz we were slammed by offshore winds from out of the mountains. We sailed just a few hundred yards off the beach in a lot of blasting sand and the worst possible chop. it was the only time I have ever taken green water in the cockpit of a center cockpit boat. We had a great Party that night in town, but coming back that night, very happy, I stuck my big toe in a u-bolt and fell over forward. That toe didn&#039;t hurt then but still hurts now in bad weather.

In Acapulco, having arrived and anchored off a nicely populated beach, we were running in through light surf when Jack flipped the dink in front of all those people. We still managed to have a memorable time in town. After turning down a job on a small square rigger headed north, I flew back to St.Pete a couple days later. My girl said it was time to fish or cut bait, so we eloped to Georgia and moved to Texas to design and build offshore rigs. The whole process took less than a year but was certainly memorable. Though I have told many stories about Jack, and just wishfully assumed that he was still out there doing his thing, I hadn&#039;s seen or heard a word until I saw this web page. I don&#039;t know that we are refering to the same Jack Showers, but I&#039;d be very surprised if we weren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1974 was the year I finished building a boat in Detroit, worked for a sailmaker and lost a girl friend in Annapolis, worked for both Charlie Morgan and Ted Irwin in St Pete as a designer, met my future wife, and went to work as a delivery crew for Capt. Jack Showers. We delivered Out Islands from St Pete, one for Moorings and an OI51 north of Acapulco. There were many adventures but I was so young and Jack so cool, I thought it was normal. We were boarded once by the Treasury guys and in Windward Passage we were stopped late at night by a US Navy friget with the brightest search light I have ever seen. You could feel its heat and it was awhile before we could see again.</p>
<p>We also had an engine room fire and had to sail a few days into Jamaca with no electricity which meant no lights, no fridge, and no cooking. The owners wife had stocked up on canned black olives which she said were very hard to come by in Mexico and we ate alot of them. In Jamaca we played hard with the locals at night while rebuilding the electrical system during the day. Jack spent some idyl time trying to hit on Errol Flynn&#8217;s grand daughter. In general it was a most productive week.<br />
   For some reason we couldn&#8217;t fine a chart of Panama in St. Pete but Jack scarffed up a page our of an old high school history book. As you could guess the weather was very bad comming into Panama, no shots were possible, and we were relying on his dead reckoning. It was on this trip I learned the principle of making sure you miss to the right or the left and then running down the coast to your port. We were all still relieved to be able to take a sight on the last evening.</p>
<p>After the Canal, we were leaving Panama on Christmas day. My girlfriend had cook one of her special 8 pound Galliano white fruit cakes. Jack, Elliot, and I ate the whole damn thing in one day.</p>
<p>In Coasta Rica we ended up staying for several days and i would like to go back. In Salina Cruz we were slammed by offshore winds from out of the mountains. We sailed just a few hundred yards off the beach in a lot of blasting sand and the worst possible chop. it was the only time I have ever taken green water in the cockpit of a center cockpit boat. We had a great Party that night in town, but coming back that night, very happy, I stuck my big toe in a u-bolt and fell over forward. That toe didn&#8217;t hurt then but still hurts now in bad weather.</p>
<p>In Acapulco, having arrived and anchored off a nicely populated beach, we were running in through light surf when Jack flipped the dink in front of all those people. We still managed to have a memorable time in town. After turning down a job on a small square rigger headed north, I flew back to St.Pete a couple days later. My girl said it was time to fish or cut bait, so we eloped to Georgia and moved to Texas to design and build offshore rigs. The whole process took less than a year but was certainly memorable. Though I have told many stories about Jack, and just wishfully assumed that he was still out there doing his thing, I hadn&#8217;s seen or heard a word until I saw this web page. I don&#8217;t know that we are refering to the same Jack Showers, but I&#8217;d be very surprised if we weren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brett,
Yes, Thats me.

Will look for the pics and if I find them, will place them (somewhere?).

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brett,<br />
Yes, Thats me.</p>
<p>Will look for the pics and if I find them, will place them (somewhere?).</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS I am in Cape Town now.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike - would love to see those pictures. Now lets see, was it Jesuino who stole your bottle of scotch? I was also on board for the transat and i think i remember two Mike&#039;s. I am guessing you are the photographer / diver from SA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike &#8211; would love to see those pictures. Now lets see, was it Jesuino who stole your bottle of scotch? I was also on board for the transat and i think i remember two Mike&#8217;s. I am guessing you are the photographer / diver from SA?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sailed on her from Vilamoura (Algarve ) to St. Thomas. Jack was also the skipper. Had a lovely oriental girlfriend.

Lovely experience.... except when both Gennies packed up, after leaving the Canaries -so no freezer or stove (or power toilets) and we had to eat steak until it was too rotten. Dont talk about the toilets.

The then-ship&#039;s-carpenter (I think Gino) disappeated one day out from Vilamoura and did not reappear until the Canaries (mal de Mer).
When it happened again on leaving the Canaries, I gave him one of the first transdermal plasters. He was fine after that.

Anyway, when the gennies packed up there was no electrickery to heat meat so Gino made a barbeque on deck and we burned teak to cook the food... must still have the pics somewhere.
Still have the cap with the logo and a copy of the layout of her sail plan done by Sparks &amp; Stephens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sailed on her from Vilamoura (Algarve ) to St. Thomas. Jack was also the skipper. Had a lovely oriental girlfriend.</p>
<p>Lovely experience&#8230;. except when both Gennies packed up, after leaving the Canaries -so no freezer or stove (or power toilets) and we had to eat steak until it was too rotten. Dont talk about the toilets.</p>
<p>The then-ship&#8217;s-carpenter (I think Gino) disappeated one day out from Vilamoura and did not reappear until the Canaries (mal de Mer).<br />
When it happened again on leaving the Canaries, I gave him one of the first transdermal plasters. He was fine after that.</p>
<p>Anyway, when the gennies packed up there was no electrickery to heat meat so Gino made a barbeque on deck and we burned teak to cook the food&#8230; must still have the pics somewhere.<br />
Still have the cap with the logo and a copy of the layout of her sail plan done by Sparks &amp; Stephens.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.. Armin Elsaesser 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_Baltimore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.. Armin Elsaesser<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_Baltimore" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_Baltimore</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t our skipper of go down with the Pride of Baltimore?? name escapes me</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey wood killer/ David, how are you? Yes a long time ago, last time i saw you was in Lauderdale as mate on your next berth i believe, or was it Newport? Yes i did get up to Maine on the Bougainville. In fact many psychedelic moments on that schooner. We organised parties to sell Fritz&#039;s Miami real estate all the way up the east coast. Strolling violins and sushi while two hundred quests got the hard sell, and the crew screwed the cougars below decks... ahh the fabulous 80&#039;s.

I kept sailing, transatlantic, Caribbean charters, Australia, Med, etc untill the late 90&#039;s. Since then UK, France, Singapore and South Africa.

Nothing has been quite as amazing as the bullshit on the Eric Borgman. I dont know if you heard, but she burnt down back in the Virgins a few years later - resting off Jost van Dyke somewhere in a few 100 meters. I dont think many of the original crew were still on board (and no lives lost far as i know). Glory Days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey wood killer/ David, how are you? Yes a long time ago, last time i saw you was in Lauderdale as mate on your next berth i believe, or was it Newport? Yes i did get up to Maine on the Bougainville. In fact many psychedelic moments on that schooner. We organised parties to sell Fritz&#8217;s Miami real estate all the way up the east coast. Strolling violins and sushi while two hundred quests got the hard sell, and the crew screwed the cougars below decks&#8230; ahh the fabulous 80&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I kept sailing, transatlantic, Caribbean charters, Australia, Med, etc untill the late 90&#8242;s. Since then UK, France, Singapore and South Africa.</p>
<p>Nothing has been quite as amazing as the bullshit on the Eric Borgman. I dont know if you heard, but she burnt down back in the Virgins a few years later &#8211; resting off Jost van Dyke somewhere in a few 100 meters. I dont think many of the original crew were still on board (and no lives lost far as i know). Glory Days!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Cutty Sark, Google and Cape Town by david Irvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>david Irvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett
Was drifting around the net and saw this page about the Eric Borgman.  You might remember that I was the &quot;ships carpenter&quot; (Mata Pal)at the time she was at the Sub Base in St Thomas.  We then sailed her to Miami where we had a MOST memorable welcome party.

A lot of water over the dam since then.  Got a job on a 110 schooner after the EB/PB and sailed back to Maine (where I was from) and then back south and off to Australia.  Returned later to eastern Maine where I have been ever since.  The EB/PB came to Bar Harbor Maine at one point, were you aboard at that time?

Drop me a line some time. 
dirvin@acadiamarinesurveying.com

David Irvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett<br />
Was drifting around the net and saw this page about the Eric Borgman.  You might remember that I was the &#8220;ships carpenter&#8221; (Mata Pal)at the time she was at the Sub Base in St Thomas.  We then sailed her to Miami where we had a MOST memorable welcome party.</p>
<p>A lot of water over the dam since then.  Got a job on a 110 schooner after the EB/PB and sailed back to Maine (where I was from) and then back south and off to Australia.  Returned later to eastern Maine where I have been ever since.  The EB/PB came to Bar Harbor Maine at one point, were you aboard at that time?</p>
<p>Drop me a line some time.<br />
<a href="mailto:dirvin@acadiamarinesurveying.com">dirvin@acadiamarinesurveying.com</a></p>
<p>David Irvin</p>
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		<dc:creator>Letuka Thokoana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ke motlotlo haholo ka Naha ea heso e khabileng e khabioa ke lithaba,liphoofolo,metse le metsana hammoho le Basotho</description>
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		<dc:creator>malefetsane soai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kingdom in the Sky!</description>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Kantor</dc:creator>
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		<description>dance,, dance ,, to the radio</description>
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		<description>If only Ian had have thought of this. Better than the usual calypso fare found at these type of events.</description>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they eat insects - a tasty moth goes down well. Leave it in the garden, it will be just fine, but if it likes the pool you may find it there again.</description>
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		<description>i found a frog in my mommoms pool while i was cleaning it, and it looks just like the picture above. i don&#039;t know what they eat or what to do with it. any suggestions?       thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The State of the Music Business by Scarlet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarlet</dc:creator>
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		<description>Well written article.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Goodbye Dubai &#124; Smashing Telly by David Pearson</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/goodbye-dubai-smashing-telly-a-hand-picked-tv-channel/comment-page-1/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett...is that you? I mean, the same BK from Bryanston days? If so (and have a feeling it must be from your Grumpy site...) let me know!. (dnpz@yahoo.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett&#8230;is that you? I mean, the same BK from Bryanston days? If so (and have a feeling it must be from your Grumpy site&#8230;) let me know!. (dnpz@yahoo.com)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Orange Free State by Brett</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/orange-free-state/comment-page-1/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The republic&#039;s name derives partly from the Orange River (just as the Transvaal Republic was named after the Vaal River), but both names were bestowed by the Dutch Protestant settlers in honour of the Dutch ruling royal family, the House of Orange.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Free_State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The republic&#8217;s name derives partly from the Orange River (just as the Transvaal Republic was named after the Vaal River), but both names were bestowed by the Dutch Protestant settlers in honour of the Dutch ruling royal family, the House of Orange.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Free_State" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Free_State</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Lesotho pictures by Karabo Fuma</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/lesotho-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Karabo Fuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This pictures are so beautiful! I am from Lesotho but i have no chance to see these beautiful scenery, thanks for the pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This pictures are so beautiful! I am from Lesotho but i have no chance to see these beautiful scenery, thanks for the pictures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lesotho pictures by Maurice Mokoena</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/lesotho-pictures/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Mokoena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the pictures.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dorp &#8211; Photos by Alison</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/dorp-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this picture. very atmospheric, but also a bit like something out of Hannibal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this picture. very atmospheric, but also a bit like something out of Hannibal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dorp &#8211; Photos by Marie-Laure</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/dorp-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie-Laure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where what that picture taken?</description>
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		<title>Comment on eye of the beholder by Marie-Laure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Laure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very pretty woman indeed.
But if I remember well you did manage to approach a few nice French ladies !

xxx marie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very pretty woman indeed.<br />
But if I remember well you did manage to approach a few nice French ladies !</p>
<p>xxx marie</p>
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		<title>Comment on God is the Question by brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - if an atheist and a theist sit down to discuss what they believe, can they not define what it is they are talking about? Perhaps thats the problem, theists are always banging on about &quot;indefinable mystery&#039;s&quot;. Perhaps the worst are the warm and fuzzy &quot;spiritual&quot; people who cant bring themselves to realise they are insignificant meat. But at least they are not as dangerous as some zealots who would put a teacher to death for naming a teddy bear &quot;Jesus&quot; (hollow be his name), or a world leader who hears voices in his head telling him/her to go get back our oil gaad buried in a foreign country (for some mysterious reason).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; if an atheist and a theist sit down to discuss what they believe, can they not define what it is they are talking about? Perhaps thats the problem, theists are always banging on about &#8220;indefinable mystery&#8217;s&#8221;. Perhaps the worst are the warm and fuzzy &#8220;spiritual&#8221; people who cant bring themselves to realise they are insignificant meat. But at least they are not as dangerous as some zealots who would put a teacher to death for naming a teddy bear &#8220;Jesus&#8221; (hollow be his name), or a world leader who hears voices in his head telling him/her to go get back our oil gaad buried in a foreign country (for some mysterious reason).</p>
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		<title>Comment on God is the Question by Kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like our &quot;bossies&quot; tea (as Rooibos tea is often called here in SA) is doing it&#039;s thing for you, making you &quot;bossies&quot; being one of them (another SA meaning of the same word, meaning &quot;bush-mad&quot;, another word for that being &quot;Bosbefok&quot; (meaning &quot;Bush-mad-f*cked&quot;(yes to the pun)))...I mean really, asking to define god/God! I thought that&#039;s the whole point, the indefinable maketh the mystery and thus the man&#039;s imagination runs &quot;bossies&quot;!!! So, the moral being, enjoy your rooibos tea, live forever and you might not need God.
Must get this link and drink more bossies tea!(then again, perhaps not, one goes bossies enough from just living here in Smithfield!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like our &#8220;bossies&#8221; tea (as Rooibos tea is often called here in SA) is doing it&#8217;s thing for you, making you &#8220;bossies&#8221; being one of them (another SA meaning of the same word, meaning &#8220;bush-mad&#8221;, another word for that being &#8220;Bosbefok&#8221; (meaning &#8220;Bush-mad-f*cked&#8221;(yes to the pun)))&#8230;I mean really, asking to define god/God! I thought that&#8217;s the whole point, the indefinable maketh the mystery and thus the man&#8217;s imagination runs &#8220;bossies&#8221;!!! So, the moral being, enjoy your rooibos tea, live forever and you might not need God.<br />
Must get this link and drink more bossies tea!(then again, perhaps not, one goes bossies enough from just living here in Smithfield!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scott Ritter: Calling Out Idiot America by Chick Mc Kain</title>
		<link>http://grump.yoldfart.com/scott-ritter-calling-out-idiot-america/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Chick Mc Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that was in March, now in November we have started to hear stories of Iran having nuclear weapons within one year.  Mean while Pakistan tells us their nuclear weapons are in safe hands so long as the military stay in power!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that was in March, now in November we have started to hear stories of Iran having nuclear weapons within one year.  Mean while Pakistan tells us their nuclear weapons are in safe hands so long as the military stay in power!</p>
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